The App That’ll Be Bigger Than TikTok

I did mine last night in bed. I made one that said, um, I made a few actually. The first one was put me in a Ralph Lauren ad, which is hilarious. But the really shocking one, I said, make it look like I have a ponytail. And let me, Share that ponytail one. It's scary. I let it grow out over the last year. It feels completely different, but I kind of like it. It's easy enough to keep in shape just to rinse in some conditioner and let it do its thing. When I'm working or need it out of my face, I just pull it back like this. Simple.

Feels good. So this app is unbelievable. I did one where I said me ding dong ditching, uh, somebody used like the Ring camera footage. And then I cartwheel away to hide.

All right, here we go.

Quick knock. And I'm out.

Perfect. How does it know your height and stuff?

It just inferred my entire body from my face, which is disappointing in its own way. That looks real. Yeah. And so, okay, so you could do it for yourself. Now watch this one I just sent. You could also use other people if they let you. So this is, so Sam Altman, the, you know, the founder of, uh, OpenAI, he's like available to be used. So you just, if you just tag, like, you're just like me talking to Sam Altman or whatever. But in this case, somebody was like, they used Sam Altman and they were making fun of the idea of the AI slop. Have you seen this one?

Are my piggies enjoying their slop? This is crazy. This is 100%, I think, better than TikTok, actually. I think it's better than TikTok. And it's, it's, this is V1. It's so good.

I just went to the App Store last night and I just clicked download and it worked. I didn't know you had to have an invite.

When you lived in China, did you— were I forget what they call them, but what are the apps that are like— I think it's WhatsApp is one of them where they're like an everything app where WeChat. Yeah, super apps. WeChat. So like with the WeChat, it's hard to understand in America, but they call it an everything app because you could like, you chat with your buddies, you order groceries and you send money. Like, what is that, right?

You pay your electricity bill, you can buy furniture, you do anything you want on that app.

So I downloaded this thing or I signed up for ChatGPT Pro or whatever the most expensive one is because they have this new thing called Pulse. Have you used Pulse?

Dude, no, but I love this idea. I haven't used it. Can anybody just turn this on?

Like, I want to like perfect that craft a bit more.

It writes articles based off of the conversations that I've had with it. So when we do this podcast, we'll use ChatGPT to research and come up with story ideas. It's giving me daily articles based off that, which is insane.

And so like, they should have just called this Ben Levy because this is what Ben Levy does. Ben gets to know you. He knows what your interests are, what your dreams are. He knows what you're, what you're working on right now. And he'll every day he'll just text you useful, interesting things and celebrate your success and like help. Hey, here's a tweet I saw that's relevant to the thing you're talking about. Hey, here's an article. That talks about how to do that thing you were talking about. Now Ben has to compete with AI because AI is doing that.

And this is the first example of a super app. Now I'm starting to get it where I'm like, everything's going to be on here. And frankly, like, I'm a free market guy. This is scary. This is like every quarter I'm like, okay, now I am a little bit more fearful. What's going to happen in 5 years? Because how is this company not going to take over the world and be the biggest company on earth? The way that like I'm using it already.

And why is that something you're fearful of? There is always a biggest company on Earth. Why is it scary that it would be OpenAI?

I wanna talk about this for a second. This is pretty fascinating. So I sent this to my sister. I sent her one of these videos and she was like, oh, what? AI, Sean, what is this? And I'm like, oh, the makers of ChatGPT now have this app. You can make any video about anything using anyone and you just use your face and then they just do it. And I was, and she's like, oh my God, being your sister is so tiring. You have so many cool things that I now need to like know of. And like, I was just getting settled in this couch of life here and now I have to get up and go do things. And like, what is this? And I feel that, I actually feel that in a big way.

Right. You feel exhausted?

Yeah. 'Cause like even when you talked about Pulse, it's like, oh, another game-changing thing I need to go learn, do, try. Oh my God. Am I irrelevant now? Is, am I, am I super powerful or irrelevant? I can't tell. So I think there's, there's that angle, which is I think some people feel exhausted by the rate of change. And I don't know what to tell you. It's like, it's like saying I'm so tired. It's like on Survivor when they're like, I'm so cold. It's like, well, you still got 30 more days out here and it's going to keep raining. Like, I don't know what you're going to do. You sleep every night in the rain.

Now that's what happens.

You're going to be drenched.

You just summed it up perfectly. Am I now super powerful or am I irrelevant? I don't know which one.

Yeah, because dude, I mean, I'm looking at this thing like, oh cool. So content creation, everybody can just do it easily. Easley.

Interesting. Hi.

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So can I tell you some of the, some of the more positive, uplifting, exciting versions of this? So I think, um, learn— learning and education is getting way better. So there's a few examples of like, uh, people who are making AI tutors that are incredible. We've talked about Alpha School. Google just released this thing called like, I forgot what it's called, like Personalized Learning, where you can basically tell it what you want to know and then it just like develops this incredibly personalized curriculum for you and feeds you, like takes you down that path, which is really cool. Um, and I think the idea of like, just like you have a therapist or we talked about a, um, a, you know, a therapist in your pocket, a sponsor in your pocket, you're also going to have Socrates in your pocket.

What's it called?

You know, Google sucks at naming everything. So they're like Google Learning and Development Trees. It's like, I don't know what— I don't know what it's called. It's like something bad.

All these companies just— they name their thing like Maps. Like, it's just like one.

It's like, it's like, this is Ava. Ava, your cute friend who's all-knowing. Hey, Ava. I want— all you have to do is out in public, just say, Hey, Ava. It's like, I don't want to say, hey, Ava, out in public, you know? Hey, Ava, how much is that house worth? That's what I'm going to be saying.

I want to—

hey, Ava, does she have an OnlyFans? Thanks, Ava.

While your glasses are on.

Hey, can you hold still for a second?

Hey, Ava, record.

Hey, can you turn this way? I'm out of range. Hold on, let me get closer to your face.

Do you ever gawk? Like, you ever see like a crime and I'm like, uh, like whenever I see a police officer doing something, I just am, um, uh, I'm just like, Sarah, let's go gawk. Like, I'm just like, like, hey, can you guys—

I just overestimate myself. I'm like, you guys need a hand with anything?

Could you guys explain what's going on? Uh, like, what did he do?

What did he do?

I'm just like, uh, I'm just like, uh, shamelessly, I'll just go up to someone like, could you give me a play-by-play?

Dude, by the way, that's one of the best Sora prompts is, uh, use body cam footage to show me doing X, and it's a cop body cam that's following you. It's so good.

Well, if you watch any sport now, like, every ad is basically like— the sponsor of every podcast is, you know, FanDuel or DraftKings. And then if you watch the games, like, you know, the leagues used to ban this. They didn't want gambling as a part of it. But now they basically realize, like, that's our premium sponsor. And so they're, like, heavily using it. But it's funny because, like, there's been all these situations now. I don't know if you've seen where players are caught. There was probably like 5 notable things— not 5 notable cases of this last year across like NBA and NFL, let's say. And so like one guy, for example, um, you know, he owed a bunch of people money. He owed like a car dealer money and his jewelry guy money and whatever. And then they went back and they looked at like a pattern of his games and they're like, huh, like that's weird that he didn't shoot the ball there at the end of the game. Or like Just last week, even, um, this football player, they were the quarterback, they were winning, the quarterback wanted to run out the clock, so they're just trying to hold the ball. And so he took the snap, and then to make sure that he used all of the clock, he just started running backwards, which you would never do normally if you wouldn't run backwards. But he's like, cool, I just need the 7 seconds to expire. He ran all the way backwards into the end zone and took a safety, so a 2-point swing for the other team, which didn't matter, they were up by 7 anyways. But the line was 6, and so it went from a win to a loss. Now, he wasn't cheating, but like The gambler, you know, these guys get like death threats in their DMs every day now because they're like, dude, you messed up my parlay. Like, you messed up my over-under. Like, you piece of shit, you know, blah, blah, blah. And they just, they get like harassed. So the players don't really like it who are, you know, just trying to play the game because like all of a sudden people take it uber uber personally if they have a bad game or if they miss that shot or if they scored one extra time or didn't score one extra time when they could have swung the line, you know. By the way, there's another angle to this that's kind of fascinating. In the sort of sports betting nerdery. So I don't know if you've seen lately, but there was this great tweet where it showed Robinhood stock going like this and DraftKings stock going the exact opposite way in the same time frame. Sports betting, which is like a pretty regulated thing, like I can't do it out of California, for example, right? I think you can do it in Texas, but I can't do it there. I don't know what state—

38 states in America allow it.

That's insane.

I don't know why that's any different, but it basically calls it like it's almost like a commodity, basically. So You're— so all these apps were able to add it as prediction markets rather than sports betting. And so now it's— now it's in more places than it was before, and it's easier to access than it was before. Listen up. The old playbook is slowing you down. AI broke the funnel. Loop Marketing fixes it. It's a new era for marketers. AI is capturing search traffic. Channels are fragmented, and generating leads feels less predictable than ever before. HubSpot's Loop Marketing Playbook will guide you through this unprecedented disruption. It's the system your marketing teams should use to move faster, connect deeper, and grow smarter. The modern growth playbook for the AI era, built by HubSpot, designed for today's marketer. Get the Loop Marketing Playbook at hubspot.com/loop-marketing to find out more and leave your competition behind. All right, back to the pod.

I think once you become like a famous podcaster like Scott Galloway or you and I, we have to take on the cause. Like, we automatically get interested in saving young men, which is like all the rage right now, right? Like, young men are getting left behind. But in all seriousness—

Which is ironic because I spent like most of my 20s gambling on like riverboat casinos and like Indian reservations. But yeah, yeah, you guys shouldn't do it, even though I did.

Someone on the pod brought this up a long time ago. They were talking about how like physical centers, basically they were like, oh, you could repurpose like— I forgot what it was. There was some retail concept that was just dying, like a Blockbuster type of thing. And they were talking about how their prediction, their idea that they brought on the pod was to repurpose those for gambling addiction. They're like, oh, at that time there wasn't even the sports prediction markets. It was just daily fantasy. And they were like, you know, there's, there's going to be a big need for this. Can I tell you about an MFM listener who's doing something really cool with this? All right. So there's a guy who I think he listens to the pod, he DM'd me and he's got a very interesting app. So if you go to sunflowersober.com.

Okay, that's cool.

Check this out. So this guy Kobe created this app called Sunflower Sober, and it's an AI-based version of— what do they call it, like a sponsor? Yeah. So I think— I don't know exactly how it works.

I can tell you. I could tell you. I could tell you.

You—

did you go? Yeah.

Were you a member?

I was a member of AA.

Yeah. So what did you— tell me your experience. So you go to— you went to a physical place and it was like, hi, I'm Sam, And I have a great newsletter. Subscribe to you also.

I have a problem.

Like, what did you say?

This is pre-newsletter, but basically I think before I met you, like, I was like, I didn't make a lot of money and I was like, I don't have a lot of money to go to rehab or anything like this. I need help. And I went and like Googled AA near me and I lived in Potrero Hill and I go to a meeting and there's 30 or 20 of you sitting around in a circle. And they're famous for having everyone smoke cigs because that's like when you get off alcohol, you like your, your addiction transfers to like a new thing. And so there's everyone smoking cigs and everyone drinking black coffee at like 8 p.m. at night. And you basically, you go around the room and you say your name and your issue, which is basically I'm an alcoholic and I have been sober or I haven't been sober for this long. And you tell your story and you don't have to share if you don't want to share. But, and after a certain amount of time, you get a sponsor, which is someone who you're supposed to rely on and you're supposed to call and you say like, I'm at this party and like, I'm feeling like I'm being tempted right now. I don't feel great, or I screwed up. Like, can you help me? And you're supposed to like go above and beyond for this person. And that's how you pay it forward in the community.

Right. And that's free. All of that's free or you pay?

AA is free.

AA is free. The sponsor thing's free. It's just a community of people helping each other.

Yeah. And there's a weird story about it. So there's a phrase. So have you heard the phrase, are you a friend of Bill? That's the secret phrase. So like, are you friends with Bill?

Gave it out.

It's not really like that secret, but it's like, are you, are you friends with Bill?

And that means like, are you in AA?

Yeah, because I believe the founder is named Bill W. They say, are you a friend of Bill W.? The founder of Alcoholics Anonymous was this guy named Bill W. And he started in 1935 and he's got this crazy story where he was trying to overcome alcohol addiction and he created this 12-step program for himself. But he's a wild character where like he like took a lot of LSD to help him like overcome his addiction. And it's a whole like cowboy story behind this guy. But the phrase in AA, it's a secret phrase. It's, you friends with Bill W?

This is pretty cool. You know what's crazy is, um, alcohol amongst young guys has like plummeted. Alcohol, like people drinking, like when, when you and I were at college, like it was like Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday. Like, that's, that's drinking nights, or like, you know, something like crazy like that. Young guys do not do this nearly as much, which is good.

Have you seen 21 Jump Street? Yeah. You're like, daily? When they go back to school and they're trying to be cool and they're basically like, you know, they're like 29 or whatever and they're going back to tech. First they go with like one, one strap on the backpack, right? Like there's like all these like little things that like were cool then but are not cool now. And they're like, punk a kid, try to like make themselves cool. And they're like, yo, that's not cool, man. That's bullying.

Well, they're like, call me gay. And the guy's like, why would you be so insensitive?

Exactly. And so they're like, whoa, like, shit's changed. And that's kind of what the drinking culture, you know, from what I read. I don't know if it's actually true. I don't know if you go to college campuses and they're all dry now, but like, it does seem like it's much less than it was when we were in college, you know, 18, 20 years ago.

It's way less. Is this Sunflower Sober? Are they, did they raise funding?

Yeah, they raised funding. So I was looking at investing because I think this is going to be a very successful company. You know, that doesn't always make it a great investment because valuation matters a lot. But I think an app like this, I think, you know, the way that Calm and Headspace came in and did something on an app, they did meditation on an app, something that was previously kind of like a, a little bit of a touchy-feely sort of thing that you did offline. And they made it like a daily habit, uh, you know, daily ritual in your pocket. I think that basically getting off your addictions, whether it's porn, whether it's gambling, whether it's alcohol, whether it's weed, you know, whatever it is, there's plenty of things— screens, you know, just, just social media. There's a bunch of things that you could be addicted to nowadays. And I think helping people get off that is going to be a pretty big deal.

Have you been to therapy?

I have like an executive coach. I don't know if that would count as therapy. I would say probably no.

I mean, Cousins, have you used— do you think that ChatGPT could potentially change Or have you used ChatGPT to supplement and/or replace an executive coach or a therapist?

Definitely on the executive coach side. On the therapy side, I mean, I never went to therapy. I don't even know what you would— what I would say. I'd be like, hey, like, yeah, like, life's pretty good. I don't even know what I would go into. So I don't even have the skills to like— it's kind of like in Lost when they find the hatch and they're like, how do you get in? And I'm like, I don't know. It's like, that's my emotions. They're the hatch and I have no idea. I don't even know what the problem— I don't even know what I'm supposed to say, what I'm supposed to do. It's a foreign language to me.

Yeah, it's really good. Really, really good. And I think that AI is only getting better. And so using AI to do these things that humans were otherwise doing, whether it's therapy or, you know, your sponsor or other things, I think is going to help expand access to more people, you know, who otherwise maybe they didn't, maybe they didn't seek it out because they felt embarrassed. Maybe it was too expensive. Maybe they live in some random country on Earth where that's not as common. You know, they don't they don't have it available in Potrero Hill where you're living at the time, right? Like there's this sort of like, there's like multiple 10x, you know, sort of order of magnitude jumps you can get when you just look at those, those 3 variables alone: cost, access, and sort of the taboo nature of it. Hey, quick message here because you know that feeling when you send a wire and it actually works? No friction. Well, I've used Mercury for years now, and let me tell you, it just works. And that's why I use it for not 1, not 2, but 8 of my companies. From credit cards to invoices, I have everything in one place. There's no janky dashboard. I'm never told, please, please visit a local bank branch. None of that tomfoolery. And a few months ago, I landed a big client. The first thing I did, I sent them a clean branded invoice. Boom. Deal closed. Cash in the door. That's the kind of banking experience I want.

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So I saw something on— I saw something that like sort of got passed up on that I thought was amazing. Okay, so there's a podcast called Acquired. We've had them on here. They're amazing. They're awesome. They were talking to Toby. Toby's— I actually don't know Toby's last name. Toby's the CEO. What is it?

Lütki, I think.

He's the CEO of Shopify, which is, you know, like the 10th or 18th or 30th largest company in America or in the world. Huge thing. And he made this small comment. So Tobi is a guy who we've had his partner on before, and he kind of explained him a little bit.

I know what you're about to say because it was unbelievable what he said.

It was unbelievable.

It was like, guys, that guy just said something insane over there. Are we just moving on? Like, what's happening?

So basically he's like, this guy Tobi, I got to set this stage a little bit. He's a nerd's nerd. Like he's like, uh, he's like all about this. And so he tells this story where he very casually mentions, well, um, about 20 years ago, about 15 years ago, I created this program where it logged every letter I ever typed on my machine. And you know when somebody calls a computer machine that they're like the shit?

He was like, that's the tell.

I mean, like you, I thought that was one of the most, um, just sort of like, what, what, what'd you just say? You did that? You actually did that? And I was like, wow, what a also forward-thinking thing to do, because now in the world of AI, it's all about data, and this guy might have the best data set that you would want to create, like, a very, very— the best dataset for himself.

Yeah.

Because if he wants to create AI that thinks like him, well, guess what? He logged every keystroke and took a screenshot of his screen every 10 seconds. So you knew exactly what he was doing. It made me think of— I don't know if you've heard people talk about, um, Meditations by Marcus Aurelius. Of course. And like, the remarkable thing about Meditations is like, here's this guy who was the ruler of the Roman Empire, which was the most powerful empire in the world. So here's the most powerful man on Earth. And then he wrote in his diary every night. He never thought it would get— he never planned to publish this. So it's his true inner thoughts. And then we sort of, like a, you know, like a little brother, jacked his diary and, you know, published it for the whole world to see. But wow, what a one-of-one type of unique event where the most powerful man in the world logged all of his innermost thoughts that he didn't think anyone would read, and now we all get to benefit from it. And that's Meditations. I'm like, Well, this is way better because this is like that for a CEO because he didn't even have to write it, which is already one filter, right? Maybe one, maybe some days you don't write, maybe you, you write, but you're not sharing the full context. Maybe you're not, maybe you're being a little generous to yourself versus every keystroke, everything I looked at, every distraction, every tab I opened. I can't believe that he did this. And also he didn't say what he's doing with it, but, um, I'm pretty fascinated to find out what that is.

Me too. I think it's amazing. So like, I, I'm a bit— I'm big into this. So like, I have a secret. I call it my secret YouTube where I make like a— you know how like in your phone when you like film your kids, you typically only do like a 10-second video of them doing something cute. I love home videos. So like, remember when your dad, like, you just keep the camcorder on? Well, they keep it on for like 10 minutes and then like, I don't know if you've ever experienced that magical moment where you're like 18 or, you know, our age now and you're like, oh, dad, let me play one. And you'll just sit and watch it for like 15 minutes. Like, it does feel magical. And I only have— I think I only have one video of me as a kid because my parents didn't have one. And I'm like, oh man, I long for that. I wish I had that. And so what I do is I film like 5-minute videos where I'm just walking around the house having a conversation. And we're not performing, we're just like, uh, hanging out. And I upload it every day to my YouTube. And, um, the reason I did it is there's this app called One Second a Day, or one— I forgot, is that what it's called?

One Minute a Day?

Is it One Minute a Day?

No, no, One Second.

Um, I remember that thing, but what was it doing? Was it just bringing, was it like TimeHop? It was just bringing back an old photo?

No, so RescueTime was a thing that Tim Ferriss promoted. And the whole premise of it was it's going to tell you what you spend your time on. And I remember using that and I'm like, I wish you could tell me more. Like, I wish I could like track my behavior on the internet and tell me about myself. But back then, this was 15 or 10 years ago, we didn't have that technology. Now because of my obsession of like, I do like tracking. I love tracking. I wish that I could like do this for more facets of my life. And when I saw Toby's thing, I'm like, I long for that. I want that so bad.

I'm not talking about that kind of tracking. I'm talking about tracking as in memories. Like I like looking back. Like, for example, I have clothes from when I was a kid that my girl, my little girl wears now. And I'm like, oh, that makes me feel special. I'm so happy I saved it. Like, I, like, I'm talking about, like, memories. Like, I like memories. I don't, I don't wear an Oura ring.

I don't wear— You're talking about, like, RescueTime, right? That's more time tracking. That is Rob Dyrdek, right? When Rob Dyrdek came on, he goes, I track every minute of every day.

I'm not talking about— what I'm saying is I wish I could have used that, but in a different way. And what Toby is doing is a kind of a cool example where, like, I'm logging things to, like, so I can look back 6 or 12 months or 10 years later and I'm like, let's see my evolution. Like, did I— like, I just think that it's very curious and interesting.

Do you use the Meta glasses?

No. Are they awesome? Should I get them?

If you just push the button. That's still good enough though.

And it's your point of view and you don't have to take out your phone. Like, first of all, when you take out your phone, you're out of the moment. And then they're like, uh, okay, I guess I'm supposed to dance now. What do I do? Right? Like, I'm not sure exactly what, what to do. Especially once your kid starts playing sports, it's like the handiest thing in the world. Like, it is, it is like the soccer mom's dream is to be able to just push the button and now you get to watch the game, but you also get to record what's going on very easily. So these things are amazing. I think they're about to make them. GoodBad, and what GoodBad is, they're putting like a screen in it. So it's like, and while you're walking around, you can scroll Instagram. And I'm like, oh yeah, like you can check your email. It's like, okay, cool. Like I can see why that's useful, but I don't think it's like wise to do that. Right. Whereas the version they have now, the version I have is just camera only. So it's just a capture device.

Maybe I will get those.

It doesn't do anything else. Capture device and it's headphones if you want, like if you don't want to wear AirPods. It's an amazing set of headphones, uh, that just like sit over your ear, but you hear it and only you hear it. Other people don't hear it. It's pretty great.

That's like the third time you've, you've mentioned this. I'll get it. I'll get it. Uh, I'll buy these. These are actually great.

It's a great thing for parents because like, you know, your kid's on the swings and you just like, you're like, this is a moment right now, or I think this is a moment. And it's like one second, like less than one second away and you're capturing it and then you're still in the moment.

That's cool. Yeah, I'll get them. I'm in. They used to be $500. Now they're way cheaper.

Yeah. And they're just getting better, uh, every time they do it. There's one more, but I don't want to bury it at the end of this episode. I want to actually lead with it next time because I've been dabbling with a different AI tool that I think is incredible. And it's been such an amazing, positive experience. And I feel so, um, empowered, like, you know, I feel total, total empowerment in my body. Um, and I want to tell you about that in a, in the next episode. And I want to show you what I made with it.

Oh my God, that's a really good cliffhanger. Okay. Yeah.

All right.

Tune in. That's it.

Like and subscribe. Go to Spotify, please. Oh, by the way, the gentleman's agreement. The gentleman's agreement, which we've talked about before. Now listen, you think you may have heard this spiel before, but I've decided on the spot to improvise and change the way we're going to do this spiel. Because if I just say the same thing again and you feel like you've already heard it, this may not work as well. But listen, we are just simple creatures. And imagine that your friend Sam and your friend Sean, they needed a little bit of help, but you get to decide. It's like the trolley car problem. You get to decide. Are you going to let the train run over our bodies and we stay stuck at 800,000 YouTube subscribers and only 300,000 Spotify subscribers? Are you going to let us be at a measly 1.1 million subscribers? Or are you going to pull the lever? And move the train off the tracks and go hit that button on Spotify for us. Just show a little love, show a little support. We've entertained you, we've trained you, we've educated you, we've been here, we've been there for you when you needed us. Are you going to be there when we need you? Be a good friend. Be our— what's it called? Be our emergency contact right now. I'm putting you— I'm putting your name down as my emergency contact. Go to Spotify, follow the show, please, because we're growing like crazy on Spotify. And Spotify's got video, Spotify's got audio, and it also has comments. And there's a polls feature. We're going to put up a poll with this episode. Answer the poll. We're answering all the comments in, uh, in Spotify right now. That's, that's the new platform where we're excited about.

What do you want the poll to be?

I think in this it's the, uh, um, your reaction to the AI, to the AI ideas we have on here. And the, the options are going to be, oh my God, this is too much, or May I have some more slop, please? Those are your two options.

All right. Or it could be like, shit, we're fucked, or shit, this is awesome.

Yeah. Yeah. Those are really the only two. And somehow I'm having that reaction at the same time, which is a very weird feeling.

All right. That's it.

That's the pod. I feel like I could rule the world. I know I could be what I want to. I put my all in it like no days off on the road. All right, let's take a quick break because as you know, we are on the HubSpot Podcast Network, but we're not the only ones. There's other podcasts on this network too, and maybe you like them, maybe you should check them out. One of them that I want to draw your attention to is called Nudge by Phil Agnew. And whether you're a marketer or a salesperson and you're looking for the small changes you could make, the new habits you could do, the small decisions you could make that will make a big difference, that's what that podcast is all about. Check it out. It's called Nudge and you can get it wherever you get your podcasts.