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Boys React: Elon's Troubles, Happiness & Money Study, TikTok Ban, And Power Slap League

Mar 10, 2023·33:00·Sam & Shaan·with Ben·Listen·AppleSpotify
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BEN

Fellas, welcome to the Friday episode, The Boys React. We're gonna go through some news stories. Uh, let's start with the thing that everyone is talking about, everyone is always talking about, which is Elon. Elon has gotten himself in trouble a couple times this week. First, he tried selling some houseplants, or office plants I should say, to his employees to raise money.

SAM

Wait, really?

BEN

And then also ridiculed and sort of kind of fired an employee who, uh, who is disabled. Uh, your thoughts on, uh, the endless drama of Elon?

SAM

Cringe. What do you think?

SHAAN

Yeah, Elon is, is the cringe master. He has to make everything about him. Uh, like, it's just me, me, me. He's now known as Milan Musk in my house. This guy, this guy's too much. The, the crazy thing, Sam, did you watch this all go down with the, the guy that was like, hey, am I fired? I think we should, we should explain this.

SAM

Yeah. So do a recap. I, I didn't understand all that at first.

SHAAN

I had to like click through. So guy goes on Twitter, uh, who's got, I never heard of this guy, but he's got like 150,000 followers and he says, hey, 9 days ago, I Lost access to my work computer. Just can't— I can't access Twitter anymore. I work at Twitter. I can't access my work— my work computer doesn't log in anymore. It doesn't work. Can't get into my email. Can't do anything. Um, I'm not sure if I'm fired. Nobody told me I'm fired, but I just can't get into my email or my computer. I've emailed them. I've waited 9 days. I've got no reply from HR, from my, you know, from anybody. Um, so I guess, hey, @ElonMusk, am I fired? And so he tweets that out.

SAM

Was he getting paid still?

SHAAN

I don't know. I don't think so, but it was whatever. It was only 9 days, so maybe he hadn't got in between yet. So he tweets that out and he goes, maybe if this gets enough retweets, then I'll get a response. So it gets retweeted a bunch of like, because people, there's a whole group of people that love to hate Elon, myself included. And so people are like, this is another example of how poorly Twitter's being run right now. Like, why would you— if you're going to fire somebody, tell them they're fired. That's common decency, right? I feel like Elon's got this flowchart where it's like, I'm firing this person. Should I tell them? It's like, yes. And it's like, no, no, I'm going to go with no. Okay, what happens after no? Should I just— should I You know, meet with them in person?

SAM

No, just shut off their computer access. Dude, he's like Irish good buying their jobs. Basically. Yeah. He's just walking out without saying goodbye.

SHAAN

Exactly. And so anyways, this thing gets, this thing goes viral. So basically Elon then, you know, again, he sees all, he sees this thing going viral. So instead of, instead of instead of actually just, yeah, you are fired, or confirmed, yes, you were fired. He instead says, what have you been working on? Like, what have you accomplished? Is the— so then he goes, well, if I, you know, if I say what I'm working on, I think I'd be breaking my NDA. Do I have permission to break my NDA and tell you what— like, can I say publicly here what I work on? And Elon replies, yes, go ahead.

SAM

And so, dude, what a pathetic start to the story. That's already pathetic.

SHAAN

He goes, all right, well, Guy goes, well, I was leveling up the design of this. I was working on this and I was helping save money on this contract or whatever. And he goes, Elon replies, level up the design from what to what? Pictures or it didn't happen. And like, yo, dipshit, you cut off his computer access. How was he supposed to have screenshots of his work if you took away his computer? He's not even able to do it. And then he's mocking him basically. He's just replying with the crying laughing emoji. He's replying, trolling him with like a clip from Office Space. And now here's where Elon went wrong. So Elon's not dumb, but he's a dumbass. And there's a big difference between dumb and a dumbass. Dumb is you're just not smart. Dumbass is you're smart, but you do dumb things. And that's what Elon does here. So he basically picks on a guy that it comes out. So this guy sold his company to Twitter and The guy— so Elon comes out and here's what he says about the guy. He goes, he goes— somebody was like, dude, this is the, uh, this guy Alex Cohen has this great tweet. He goes, I'm not gonna lie, this is the most entertaining exit interview ever, just watching this whole thing go down in public. And then the guy— and Elon says, the reality is this is a guy that who was independently wealthy, did no actual work, and claimed as an excuse that he has a disability preventing him from typing. Yet here he is tweeting out, tweeting up a storm.

SAM

Wait, so, and so the disability thing, Elon said that first?

SHAAN

He goes, he claimed as his excuse that he has a disability preventing him from typing, yet was simultaneously tweeting up a storm. I can't say I have a lot of respect for that.

SAM

What a douche. Why could— how could he reveal that?

SHAAN

Here's the other side of the story. This guy has like— this guy's in a wheelchair. He's had like muscular dystrophy. For 25 years. And so he goes, so this guy came back with just kind of some, some fire.

SAM

So he goes, um, thunderclap, I think you called it.

SHAAN

Yeah. He, he did a solo thunderclap basically. So he comes back, he goes, glad to see you're taking such an interest in my health. Um, I assume what you're talking about when you are sharing my private health information online is the fact that I've had muscular dystrophy for 25 years. And I guess I'll go ahead and tell the story now. So, you know, I, uh, lost, I lost the ability to use my legs 20 years ago. I've been in a wheelchair. Um, unfortunately it's been spreading and I've, my, my arms have been getting weaker over time. In fact, that's why I sold my company. Remember you said I was independently wealthy? I guess what you mean by that is I built a successful company and sold it. Unlike, you know, somebody else who might have inherited, uh, inherited a emerald mine, which is, you know, how Elon's dad owned an emerald mine, which is bullshit, which is, that's a bullshit thing.

SAM

I hate when people say that, but whatever.

SHAAN

Good. Still, we'll, we'll use it in this case. It's good. Um, and so he goes, I, I guess that's what you mean by independently wealthy. And you know, so here's what, here's the story. This guy's got muscular dystrophy. He, he's losing feeling in, uh, or strength in his arms. It's becoming very painful to, to type. He decides, okay, I'm gonna sell my company. And instead of taking a lump sum payment, he chose to get paid out, uh, through like a, a salary instead of an upfront money, which is like, dude, who would do that? Why? Because he wanted to pay more taxes in Iceland where he's from. Or I think it's Iceland, maybe. Yeah, I think it's Iceland. Wait, really? He wanted to pay more taxes. Why did he want to pay more taxes? Because he felt like he's— as a disabled person, he had benefited a lot from like the social welfare system there and was like, I want to contribute as much as I can to that. Which honestly sounds like too good to be true. Like, that's so different than me. I almost can't fathom that. I'm almost like, why don't you just take the money and donate it instead of paying in taxes? I don't really understand that, but he Either way, uh, this guy, so, built a company, had 100 employees working for him, it was profitable, decides to sell it. Um, you know, he, he's, his body's basically been giving out on them. He's like, you know, financially it wasn't the best decision. Um, my company was making a lot of money. Twitter's offer was lower than other companies, but I made a bet on Twitter. It was growing at the time. Um, and he goes, by the way, he goes, anyways, I digress. Are you still reading or is your bathroom break over? Okay, what was I saying? And he goes, um, hey, uh, yes, uh, so you bought the company, told employees you weren't firing them, firing 75% of them, and then you did. I was not in the first batch or the second batch or the third batch of layoffs. I don't know which batch we're on now, but I, you know, uh, whatever, you know, I think I got— I think I'm fired now. I'm not sure. I just want to make sure I get paid out because in his contract he had it where, okay, I'll take the money as a yearly salary rather than an upfront payment, but if you ever fire me, then you have to pay out the rest, right? So I'm guaranteed this money. I'll take it, you know, slower rather than faster. But you know, that, that's fine. And so anyways, this guy, this guy, not only, not only says how he's typing.

SAM

What's that? He also mentioned how he was typing. Yeah.

SHAAN

And I think he was just like, yeah, I can't do like sustained thing, but like I can type with one finger on my phone and blah, blah, blah. And so anyways, he explains this, he goes, um, Like, this guy was literally named Person of the Year in Iceland. This guy, like, his side hustle is he's building wheelchair ramps throughout Iceland so that other disabled people can do— like, he's building hundreds of these wheelchair ramps. Like, that's who you're picking on here. That's who you chose to fight with. I saw this great quote. He goes, Elon, man, this guy's a dumbass. He fucked with the wheelchair Mr. Rogers. He goes, what is this guy thinking? You know, like, and so this guy, you know, I read this through thread and I was literally like, 911, I'd like to report a murder. It was just the ultimate clapback. And then Elon tries to backtrack and he basically goes, some random dude tweets in the thread, goes, I know Hallie and you're saying that he's a liar and was just trying to do no work and get paid out. That's not who this guy is. Random guy tweets and then Elon tweets back. This is the most bullshit of all the bullshit. He goes, based on that comment, I decided to call Hallie rather than, rather than just tweet it to each other. And he goes, I decided to call Hallie. He goes, what did he say? He goes, and, you know, have a video chat with him. Turns out, you know, there was a misunderstanding. The information I was given was either incorrect or correct, but not important.

SAM

That's that white flag, bro. You lost, you know, surrendered.

SHAAN

You know, uh, you know, we've discussed him, you know, staying with the company. And, you know, this is the ultimate backtrack. It's like, first of all, you, you're— you want him to stay with the company because you have to pay him out if you fire him. So that's like, you know, the first thing. Second thing, you basically fucked up and stepped in it, and this guy could sue you for like, you know, a whole bunch of money for like basically, you know, discriminating against a disabled person, as well as disclosing his private health information, as well as probably 3 or 4 other, you issues that were labor laws that were broken in this process. But it's like, dude, you decided to have a video chat not when the guy said he's— your employee said he hasn't heard from you, not when he asked for an explanation, but when a random guy on Twitter said, nah, Howie's a good guy. You decided there to stop in your tracks and do a video call with him? Bullshit. This whole thing is bullshit. And Elon continues to be You know, king, the king of bullshit.

SAM

Have you heard the, uh, the song Damn It Feels Good to Be a Gangster? Sure. Have you heard that song? There's a line, there's a line in it where I can't say the real line, but it basically says, uh, real gangsters don't flex nuts cuz real gangsters know they got 'em. Yeah. And, uh, right now Elon's, he, he is pretty gangster. I mean, he's the man. He ain't, he ain't acting like it. He's flexing nuts hard and he shouldn't be flexing as hard as he is. And I get the personality type where some people are like, dude, he's just saying whatever he wants. The same thing with Trump where he's like, he's just saying what he says.

SHAAN

It like it is.

SAM

Says it like it is. And I actually dislike that. I like that like to an extent, but I'm like, there's— but just because you say it like it is, like, well, he's just doing what he wants. Yeah, but he just— you just punch someone. Like, hitting people isn't good. Do you know what I mean? It's like, yeah, I want to do what I want. Does that mean I'm going to like go take a dump in the corner of the room? Like, you know, there's like you— let's be polite to one another also, if possible, right? We don't— we're not going to be needlessly, needlessly rude to one another. And that's kind of how I feel he acts right now, and that's not cool.

SHAAN

Two other, two other parts of this news story. One, it's going around that this guy's payout was $100 million, which makes no sense. Anybody who's in business is like, well, that number makes no sense. There's no way he's getting paid $9 million a year of salary. There's no way that they bought his agency for $100 million. It's not how much you would acquihire an agency for. It's probably more like 10. But it all— and I went and I found it. It just started with some random guy who goes, oh man, Elon backtracking now because he realized that Halley has $100 million payout. And like 5 tweets in, somebody's like, where'd you read the $100 million? I never saw that. He goes, oh, I'm just estimating. Like, you know, acquihires are a million dollars ahead. They had 100 employees. So, you know, $100 million. And now that's just like in a bunch of places. It's like, that's how That's how bad, like, information spreads.

SAM

How fake news starts.

SHAAN

The second thing is Elon owned himself when he goes— the end of his thing, he goes, better to talk, uh, better to communicate through talking, uh, instead of communicating on Twitter. It's like just literally shitting on his own platform, by the way. Like, you know, so, so self-owning, you know, all around. Um, so that I thought that was interesting. And then Ben said this other thing about the house, the office plant thing. What do you make of this? This— I mean, this makes no sense.

SAM

What happened? I didn't— dude, I muted Elon. I love what Elon's doing, man, but I like— I even think the Twitter thing's interesting, but fuck, it's hard to be on his team. And so I had to mute him.

SHAAN

He— so he's been selling like office furniture and memorabilia from The Office, like just liquidating to like get more cash.

SAM

I tried buying— they had a Twitter logo. I tried buying it, but it got up too high.

SHAAN

And apparently like there was like plants in the office that he tried selling to an engineer, like one of the employees or something like that. It's like, I mean, I don't know, either this guy's a marketing genius. He's just trying to get PR, like trying to like, it's the thing where it's Amazon was like, we use doors as desks to save money, which is a bullshit story. Either one of those just like stories that sounds like, man, he's really turning over every rock to save money from this, this bleeding company.

SAM

By the way, I tried doing that. An IKEA desk is significantly cheaper than a door from Home Depot.

SHAAN

Yeah, exactly.

SAM

I've tried doing this. A desk is way cheaper.

SHAAN

And doors are like, like 50 bucks. Yeah. You can't even like write on them. So, so I don't know what to make of this story, but just sounds like, I mean, it just makes no sense. Either he's lost his mind or there's a masterful PR thing that's like 9,000 IQ and I can't understand it. Or someone's just making things up. I don't understand.

SAM

Maybe, maybe all. I think all of those things could be true.

SHAAN

An exaggeration about a weird thing he said because he's lost his mind and makes for good PR. Gotcha. And he's a genius. That makes sense. It could be all all those things.

SAM

You know, he could be, he's, he's not dumb, but he's a dumbass. That's a, that's a great line. I saw people calling him Elmo, Elmo Musk, and I thought that was pretty funny. Uh, but no, he's, he's fucking up. Do we wanna do one more?

SHAAN

Yeah, Ben, what else you got?

BEN

All right, let's go with, uh, with money and happiness, guys. So, uh, there was a 2010 paper that said that basically above $70,000, more money does not make you more hap— does not make you more happy. Turns out, mo' money, less problems, because a new study says that that is completely untrue. Starts to flatten a little bit as it goes up. But what do you guys think of this?

SAM

I, I, so here I, I'm pulling this up. So here's what it says, Sean. Um, it says that, um, so if you are in the happiest of the unhappiest 20%, does plateau after reaching $100,000. But after that, if you're not in that group, more money does mean more happiness. And, uh, and it basically, it goes all the way up. They studied it all the way up to $500,000 and they said after that, we, we really didn't study it much. But up to $500,000, people do get happier. But that said, the researchers found that the overall emotional effect of more money on a person is small compared to other circumstances. It's even compared to a weekend. Approximately, uh, a fourfold difference in income, so 4 times your income, is equal to the effect of a weekend, which is kind of funny. Wow. Um, but that said, more money makes you happy. And this is all like, there's this like 2010 study that said $70,000 from the beginning. I thought that was the most bullshit study. And I've said on this pod so many times, that's nonsense. That is absolutely not true. $70,000. My sister, when she was like younger, lived in New York for $70,000. You're basically below the poverty line. That is not happy. Um, so $70,000, not a chance. I used to say I thought it was at like $250,000. I actually believe it could be $500,000 or even more. Where you get happier.

SHAAN

This is one of those things like, um, you know, that might be true. I, when I heard this study, I was like, that might be true. I'm gonna go ahead and test for myself.

SAM

Yeah.

SHAAN

Like, I don't know if the earth is flat around. I don't really have the ability to go out there and check it out. I don't know, you know, if, uh, if sulfur gas is poisonous, but I figure, you know, no need to test that. This is one of those scientific claims that I had just decided a long time ago. I'm gonna go ahead and check. I'm gonna go ahead and do my own research on this one and, uh, and go ahead, try to go get, go get a bunch of money and see how it feels. And, uh, you know what? I'm glad I did because the study was bullshit, dude.

SAM

I got an MRI yesterday and the lady at the front desk was like, all right, that's $750. And she was like, didn't say that. She just handed me that. She goes, there's a bill today. And she showed it to me. She thought that I was gonna like freak out. And I was like, all right, you take Apple Pay. And I just scanned my card or whatever. And I remember thinking like, where do I tip? I am, Yeah. I remember thinking, I am so happy I'm in a spot. I used to not be able to afford that at all. And I'm so happy I'm in a spot. I call that, you know what I call that? I call that braces money. I'm just gonna be able to swipe my card and get my kid braces and not think twice about it. When I was younger, my parents bought me braces and they told me that it was 2 grand that they had to pay on a credit card. And at the time they had like $6,000. And I remember thinking like, goddamn, that sucks. Right. Like, that's not, I would be a lot happier if I had I got $9 million in the bank as opposed to $9,000 or whatever you guys had.

SHAAN

Anytime a rich person tells you that money doesn't make you happy, just ask them for their money then. Like, cool, cool, cool. I guess it's useless, right? Can I just give me a bunch of it then? Right?

SAM

Like, you know, yeah, dude.

SHAAN

And, uh, let's, let's look at the actions, uh, versus the words in a lot of these cases. All right.

SAM

There's, I always thought this study was bullshit also because I, I wonder how much money the people making the study make. I was always like, yeah, that's what they think. Sure. They, they think that, cause I want to know how much bias goes into a study when the—

SHAAN

it's always the researcher salary.

SAM

They're at the pinnacle of happiness. Yeah. Or they're like making only $50,000 and they're like, hey, see boss, $70,000. Um, but I've always wondered what like the biases are because, uh, like I don't know. I haven't even wondered.

SHAAN

I'm like, this is obvious. This is obviously not true. And, you know, if I get to the finish line and I realize, hey, you know, 5 million and 10 million felt the same, well, shame on me for going the extra mile.

SAM

You know another thing? Have you ever tried to read a study?

SHAAN

Yeah, dude, studies are hard. Crazy.

SAM

Yes, it's hard. I have no idea. And then I'll like, I follow all these like smart, like a Huberman or like these other guys who like break down studies and I'm like, and they'll say like, well, this study's actually bullshit for this reason. And I'm like, I guess I'll believe you, but I don't, like, I can't read this. And they'll like say like studies that I'm like, well, it said the word study in it, it must be true. And they're like, no, no, no, it's actually way off for this reason. And like their sample size was like 8 people, or was it replicated?

SHAAN

Or, uh, you know, a bunch of, bunch of different things like that.

SAM

Dude, I don't know how to read any of this stuff.

SHAAN

Or there's a chart and it's like the error bars are huge. It's like, yeah, it's that plus or minus, you know, it's 70,000 plus or minus 500,000. It's like, whoa, okay, hold on. What's going on here? Right? So, So yeah, I think science is, is used as a, like a shield for like, you can't argue with us sometimes, in many cases. And there's good science and there's bad science and there's weak science and there's strong science and there's, you know, and then there's physics where it's like, you know, empirically true.

SAM

And so, but the only thing that I know is 3 things. There's good science, there's bad science, and I don't know the difference between the 2. That's like the only, that's like the only shirt right there.

BEN

Nice.

SAM

That's like the only truth that I know.

SHAAN

Where's your—

SAM

that's like, it exists. I'm just, that was a little too soon. Big old brain.

SHAAN

Got that big brain on today. All right.

SAM

What else we got?

SHAAN

Got that big brain.

BEN

All right, here we go. Let's go with TikTok. Biden administration in conjunction with Congress, they're evaluating a new law that would make it possible for companies to be banned that pose a national security risk. People think this means that they're going to ban TikTok. What do you guys think? Should they ban TikTok?

SAM

I don't know anything about that.

SHAAN

Wow. Is this why they pay you the big bucks?

SAM

Dude, like people talk about, I don't, I don't know anything about China. I don't know what they're doing. That's true.

SHAAN

Uh, do you? No, no, honestly I do not. How, I mean, how would I, how would I really know? Um, the Biden, so I think that being able to ban something if it's a national security risk, yeah, I think that's, that's fine. I think that sounds like appropriate. Uh, I also, by using TikTok a ton, I could totally see how I wouldn't want this in the hands of my enemy. It's like, oh, the ability to like take in all of my data, my camera roll, turn my microphone, my camera on, as well as feed me, spoon-feed me any amount of any like feed of information based on, you know, a mysterious algorithm that can surface good stuff, bad stuff, weird stuff, misinformation, whatever. Like that's a pretty powerful weapon, right? So, so I definitely see the merit in that. Now, is TikTok actually a threat? I don't know.

SAM

All right, what's the next one? Our software is the worst.

SHAAN

Have you heard of HubSpot?

SAM

See, most CRMs are a cobbled-together mess, but HubSpot is easy to adopt and actually looks gorgeous.

SHAAN

I think I love our new CRM.

SAM

Our software is the best. HubSpot, grow better.

BEN

All right, next one. Uh, let's go with favorite cities. A new poll from a real estate advice website reveals where Americans would move if money was no object. New York, Austin's in there, that makes sense., also on the list though, Las Vegas, and at number 9, Baltimore.

SAM

Dude, I'm from St. Louis. I'm from the city of St. Louis. A lot of people don't know this, but if you look at what the highest murder rate per 100,000 people, and it's been St. Louis, like either it's usually number 1, sometimes number 2 for the past 10 years. There's like 500 murders a year. St. Louis and Baltimore, very similar. That sucks. It sucks. I don't wanna move there. Not at all. I don't understand that. That's weird to me.

SHAAN

Once I worked in the media business, I realized that, uh, Polls, rankings, lists, all bullshit. Just things to get, generate clicks, links, controversy. You know, if I was gonna make a list and I made a list that was like, you just nod and you say, yeah, that makes sense. You're not gonna share that. You're not gonna talk about that. I throw Baltimore as the, this fourth most desired city to live in or whatever. Like put New York 9th, just to make them outraged. Guess what? I'm gonna get a lot more clicks, a lot more discussion, a lot more controversy, and a lot more backlinks for, for my SEO. And you know, You know, so, so once you know their incentives, you'll know why these lists are often outrageous. Either they're just paid to put like, you know, things on the top, or they're trying to do things that will generate a bunch of shares.

SAM

Do you, uh, do you know what state Baltimore's in?

SHAAN

Yeah, Baltimore is in Maryland.

SAM

All right, nice. I didn't think you'd get that. If you Google, if you Google Baltimore, to let my brain think, I was like, of course I know that Baltimore, dude, if you Google Baltimore and look at the images. Very un— very unimpressive. And not, not impressive at all. I'm sorry, Baltimore, that skyline, not interesting one bit. They need— the, the Tourist Association needs to work on their SEO. Not, not so good.

SHAAN

Uh, what else you got, man?

SAM

Can we wrap this up with the slap fighting one?

SHAAN

Yeah, do it. Do the story, Sam.

SAM

So Dana White is putting muscle behind UFC, uh, sorry, Dana White and the UFC is putting muscle behind Power Slap League. So if you guys have not seen this, it's basically two guys, they're typically like huge fat guys standing at a table smacking each other. I think they get 3 times a smack when they get the 3 times to smack each other. I don't know the rules, but it seems like someone gets knocked out every slap, every fight. Yeah. Right. What are the rules?

SHAAN

Is it like the first one knocked out loses or it's typically 3 to 5 rounds. They take turns hitting each other. In the face with an open hand and, um, the other person just stand there and take it. They get 60 seconds to recover and then they can earn up to 10 points based on the effectiveness of the slap and the defender's reaction. That's good. So, you know, I like things where you get rewarded for pretending like it didn't hurt, uh, because that's a skill that I, I honed as a little sibling for many, many years.

SAM

Um, dude, this is the stupidest thing on earth. I don't know. So look, am I I'm not a woke guy. I consider myself right of center. Maybe I'm getting more woke as I get older. I'm hating on Elon. And also, this slap thing is the stupidest thing on Earth, and I'm not going to give it any of my eye— I'm not going to give it any of my eyeballs. I'd prefer see two people in their underwear fighting to the death in front of a million people, like UFC. But the slap thing, not a fan.

SHAAN

Yeah, like, you know, to me, knockouts are like dip. It's like, you know, I like chips and dip, but if you take the chips away and it's just dip. Now I feel a little dirty. That's how I feel about this. Like, I'm cool watching a fight where somebody gets knocked out because there's skill and there's defense and then there's strategy. When it's literally you have to stand still and get hit as hard as you can by somebody else, uh, now you— I'm just, you know, now I'm just eating barbecue sauce and I, I don't really—

SAM

which is kind of, which is kind of ridiculous that it's considered okay that we can use a— you can use a, you know, chip as a spoon and with cheese, but when you just use a spoon as a spoon for that cheese, it's we consider two different things. That is a little weird, isn't it?

SHAAN

The big questions in life that I might spend a whole lifetime trying to wonder why we are the way we are in this way. Now let me tell you something.

SAM

That's a great example.

SHAAN

Michael Vick like got booted out of the NFL and like went to jail for a dog fighting ring. Colin Kaepernick can't get a job because he, you know, took a knee during the national anthem to protest.

SAM

Those two are not even remotely the same thing, by the way.

SHAAN

I'm just saying people have got a lot more punished for a lot less than this. How is Dana White not— like, how is he not canceled for doing this? How is this— it's a legitimate thing that they're allowed to do. Um, kind of insane to me that, like, you could, you could get away with doing this and not others. I, I guess it's because they're consenting adults and that's, that's the line. I guess anything above that line works. I don't know, that sounds a little, a little iffy to me, but, uh, Yeah, I think this is so stupid.

SAM

I'm not gonna give it— I try not to give it my attention. I can't stand it. I think it's really dumb.

SHAAN

And they're all like, I watched the trailer. I was, I was heavily entertained by it.

SAM

So, you know, just from the trailer, it's kind of like there was this subreddit called Watch People Die and it was like videos of people killing themselves and it was huge and people were obsessed with it and then they deleted it. And I remember thinking, that's a good idea to delete that. And yet it was really hard not to go to that subreddit. It's like, it's, it was impossible. Like when you see it, when I would see it come up, I'm like, oh my God, this is horrible. I cannot watch this. And I would have to look away. I had to stop myself from like clicking some of that stuff.

SHAAN

Let's finish with a little show recommendation. Have you watched Physical 100 on Netflix?

SAM

You keep telling me to watch it.

SHAAN

No. Oh my God. Everybody needs to go watch the show. And I'm going to warn you, it's a weird show. If you had just described it to me, I would not have watched it.

SAM

It's just that Korean Netflix thing in real life, right?

SHAAN

It's Squid Game in real life. Yeah, kind of. So basically here's, here's why it's amazing. So the premise of the show is they got 100 athletes of different types. So bodybuilders, MMA guys, boxers, women, men, small, large gymnasts, ice climbers, luge people from the Olympics, um, whatever, everything, wrestlers. And they put 'em all together and they walk in and it's basically like, we're gonna see who is the variety of athletic competitions. Um, Like, who is the overall— what is the best body? What is the perfect body? Is it this guy or is it this girl or is it this guy? And so, and like the very first, like, you know, competition they have is basically there's a ball in the middle of a mud pit. It's like, whoever has this ball at the end of 3 minutes wins. And it'll be guy versus girl. It'll be giant bodybuilder versus tiny. There's no weight class and no nothing. And they go there, but the best part is it doesn't have this American tackiness, like slap fighting. Or ranch. Like, Koreans don't eat that shit. They don't do that stuff. All these people— here's 3 reasons why it's amazing. Number 1, they got legit the best athletes. So they literally got like the guy from the World's Strongest Man, they're Olympians, gold medalists, like their most famous MMA fighters. Like, they got their most famous athletes to go do this reality show. It's like if LeBron was competing against Patrick Mahomes versus competing against Serena Williams. But like, they actually— and they not only did they show up, they actually gave a shit. Like, they were like I really want to win this. And so they weren't just there for reality drama. That's the first thing. Second thing, they play with honor. So they'd be like, the winner of the first round gets to pick who their opponent's going to be in the second round. It's like, oh, well, an American would just be like, oh, I can beat this person, so I'm going to choose the weakest one and I'm going to do that. And then what they would do is they would go to whoever they felt was the strongest that would be the most honorable to compete against. And they'd be like, it would be my honor to compete against you. And the whole thing's done with subtitles. I'm sorry, dubbed. So it's like, it's all in Korean, but then you're listening on a dubbed thing, which is hilarious because there's even some guys that speak English. They dub them also in more English. It's hilarious. So, so they, that's how the show works and they just eliminate people until they get to the very end, the final winner of the Physical 100. And so you, this is like, you will love the show once you get in, you get 2 episodes deep, you're going to love the characters.

SAM

Which, which body type is best?

SHAAN

Well, I don't want to give it away. I mean, this is, this is the show, right? So like this, this is a giant spoiler. But you know, you got to have it all. You got to have attributes. You got to have the speed. You got to have the strength. You got to have the endurance. You got to have the dexterity. You got to have the agility. You got to have it all because they test you in all these different ways. How would I do? The show is amazing. You got to watch this thing, Physical 100.

SAM

How would I do?

SHAAN

Oh, here's the other thing that's great about it. They don't really edit it. So like in an American show, they'll be like the start of the competition. Then there's like montage. And then it's like the big fight. They'll spend 5 minutes on the big argument, the ending. Whereas with this, it's like these contestants have 1 hour to pull this like 10,000-ton ship as a team to— from one side of this room to the other. Go! And they just show the whole thing in its entirety. It's even a little bit boring sometimes, but it's kind of like watching National Geographic where you just get really into it, like Planet Earth, where you're like, ooh, is the lizard going to get the ant? I got to watch. And it's going to just happen. I'm going to watch the whole thing play out. You know, with no, no jump cuts. And it's such a refreshing change from like TikTok and like these other things that are like just such surface level stuff.

SAM

I'm looking at the winner. Uh, we're not, we're not that different, are we?

SHAAN

Well, don't give it away. You'd be surprised why this person won. It's, it's pretty crazy. So, so anyways, yeah, you gotta watch the show. It's kind of amazing.

SAM

All right. That's it. That's the pod.