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Alpine's last 4 funds all returned 5x or better
Graham Weaver set a goal 15 years ago for Alpine to be the top-performing PE fund in the world by net MOIC. Since then, the four funds invested have all done 5x or better (the fourth on track).
$5
Net multiple on invested capital (MOIC) · x return
“About 15 years ago, we set an objective to become the number one performing private equity fund in the world as measured by net MOIC, you know, the return on capital. And our last, since we set that goal, the 4 funds we invested after that have all done 5x or better, or the 4th one's on track to do that.”
Framework
Buy-and-build: get it right once, then stamp it out
Alpine's core strategy is to find an amazing CEO (often a trained insider), back them in a prosaic industry like plumbing or HVAC, and roll up add-ons. Because the TAM is enormous, you perfect the playbook once and replicate it indefinitely.
“the plumbing and HVAC industry you mentioned is like, it's like a $170 billion industry. So it's, so if you get it right and you actually figure it out, you know, you can, you can grow, you know, almost forever 'cause it, you just don't run out of, run out of TAM, which is why we like to buy and build 'cause we'll get it right once and then we'll stamp it out a number of times.”
Steal thisPick a fragmented, boring, huge-TAM industry and perfect one operating playbook before rolling up add-ons.
Framework
The superpowered search fund: bring the operator in-house
Alpine improves on the search-fund model by handling sourcing, buying, and back-office themselves (since they do it repeatedly), while keeping the core DNA: a high-attribute person betting their career on running one business.
“search fund is you're backing a young person to go buy a business and then they're going to go run it. But The thing where it kind of falls down is the first part, which is someone has to go source and buy a business. They have to go build an entire private equity firm to buy one company. So we do all that ourselves because we are obviously doing this repeated on a repeated basis.”
Story
From mowing lawns in Ohio to a $20B fund (with two near-wipeouts)
Weaver grew up average in a blue-collar Toledo suburb, brainwashing himself with Brian Tracy and Tony Robbins tapes while mowing lawns. Alpine's first fund lost money and drained his savings; the Great Recession drained it again. His formula: total accountability plus writing down goals daily, plus relentless persistence.
“the two big concepts, the first concept they, that they said was you're either gonna be your own best friend or you're gonna be your own worst enemy. So you figure out you first, you know, like you think that the world's happening. Like for example, you, you think you got cut from the basketball team and you, all this stuff happened externally, but really it's, it's you, you know?”
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$2M-revenue AI apps at $500M valuations are going to zero
Weaver maps four places to play in AI: infrastructure, LLMs, the app layer, and the use-case layer. He argues the app layer is where the hype is, and that venture-backed apps pitching his portfolio companies with tiny revenue and huge valuations will be worth nothing.
“these venture-backed apps, and they'll have $2 million of revenue and a $500 million valuation and they're going to go to zero. Like they're going to be worth absolutely zero.”
Take
AI apps get attacked from above and below
Weaver argues most AI apps lack a moat: incumbents below can now build their own tools, and the LLMs above keep absorbing the app's functionality into their own interfaces. Only proprietary datasets or deep customer integrations defend you.
“they're gonna get attacked by above and below. You know, they're getting attacked below from the companies that can have now, they can build their own stuff. They're gonna get attacked also from the LLMs who are introducing interfaces and new products that, that are like literally just taking the business to some of these apps.”
Take
AI tech will be commoditized; the moat is operations
Weaver's hot take is that in most industries the AI technology itself gets commoditized through shared software vendors, so it can't be the differentiator. The real moat in a rollup is the old-fashioned stuff: hiring, culture, retention, and integration.
“here's probably a hot take. I think the technology in many, many industries is going to be, is going to be commoditized.”
Framework
Building beats ripping apart because time becomes your friend
Weaver argues the fire-people-and-double-price playbook caps out at 1.5-2x and only if you time the exit. Building durable companies lets time compound returns toward 100x, and in the AI era a gutted team gets attacked from both sides.
“we found that building things, it's a lot more durable than ripping things apart because you can make like 1.5 times your money or maybe, maybe even 2 times your money ripping stuff apart if you're lucky, if you time the exit just right. But if you actually build something, time's your friend and it could be, I mean, you can make 100 times your money.”
Steal thisOptimize for a long time horizon: build durable value instead of cost-cutting for a quick flip.
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Plumbing/HVAC deal: $8M earnings to $500M in 6 years
Alpine's hero deal (Apex Service Partners) backed two business-school hires as co-CEOs of a small plumbing/HVAC company doing $8M in earnings. Six years later it does $500M of earnings on $3B revenue, with no additional equity invested beyond the first year.
$500M
Annual earnings of the rolled-up plumbing/HVAC business · USD/year
“We bought a small plumbing and HVAC business that had like $8 million of earnings. This year that business will do $500 million of earnings.”
Framework
Hire for white-hot will to win, surfaced via the Who? interview
Alpine's top hiring signal is a demonstrated 'white-hot will to win,' which they find more predictive than IQ or background. They use the chronological 3-hour interview from the book Who? (sequel to Topgrading), walking from high school to yesterday, watching for it to leap out.
“Number one is just this white-hot will to win, and that's more important for us. We found that to be way more highly correlated than like, you know, any other factor— IQ or background or experience.”
Steal thisScreen candidates with a chronological life walkthrough and hire only when the will to win leaps out on its own.
Framework
Hire for white-hot will to win, surfaced via the Who? interview
Alpine's top hiring signal is a demonstrated 'white-hot will to win,' which they find more predictive than IQ or background. They use the chronological 3-hour interview from the book Who? (sequel to Topgrading), walking from high school to yesterday, watching for it to leap out.
“Number one is just this white-hot will to win, and that's more important for us. We found that to be way more highly correlated than like, you know, any other factor— IQ or background or experience.”
Steal thisScreen candidates with a chronological life walkthrough and hire only when the will to win leaps out on its own.
Framework
Write down your fears to turn paralysis into a problem to solve
Weaver has students empty every limiting belief onto paper. A fear like 'I can't pay my loans if I start a business' does its worst damage in the subconscious as inaction; once written, it becomes a solvable question ('how could I start this and still service my loans?').
“it does the most damage to you when it's in your subconscious and you don't even realize you have it. So if you're, if you're walking around with some fear and you don't even know you have that fear, it just looks like inaction and paralysis”
Steal thisList every limiting belief on paper, then rephrase each as a problem to solve rather than a fear to avoid.
Framework
Don't trust the false negative from a 5-hour-a-week test
When testing a new path, don't judge it on traction (5 hours a week can't build anything worth building). Judge it on energy: was that the 5 hours you looked forward to all week? Being lit up plus a long time frame beats almost anything.
“So it's not that you're looking for, like, does it light you up? It like in that 5 hours a week, was that the 5 hours you were looking forward to that all week? Or was that 5 hours where you were like, kind of like, oh man, I gotta do 5 hours on this thing.”
Steal thisWhen dabbling in a new pursuit, measure your energy and anticipation, not early traction.
Framework
Wealth is a fraction: most people blow up the denominator
Weaver frames wealth as numerator (what you earn) over denominator (what you spend). The biggest mistake is letting the denominator creep up with each raise (house, car, kids' schools), so you never feel wealthy and lose the freedom to start a business. Keeping a low denominator made him feel wealthy early.
“there's two parts of, of wealth. There's the numerator, which is what you make, and your denominator on what you spend. The biggest mistake— and this is something everyone who listens to this podcast can benefit from— the biggest mistake people make is the denominator.”
Steal thisHold your spending denominator flat as income rises to keep optionality and feel wealthy sooner.
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800 companies bought over 31 years in private equity
Weaver says Alpine has bought 800 companies and he has 31 years in private equity, which is why the firm can hand new operators battle-tested playbooks, frameworks, and tools rather than teaching motivation.
$800
Companies acquired by Alpine · companies
“we've bought 800 companies. I've been doing— I've been in private equity 31 years. We built some incredible businesses. So we have incredible frameworks and tools and playbooks that we use that have been battle-tested.”