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Elad Gil

Serial entrepreneur, prolific angel investor, and author of the High Growth Handbook; co-founded Color Genomics and Mixer Labs.

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#635How Silicon Valley’s Most Prolific Investor Picks Unicorns | Elad Gil InterviewOct 08, 2024

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Framework

Invest market-first, not founder-first

Elad Gil credits much of his angel track record to weighting market and product-market fit above founders, the opposite of most early-stage investors. He's watched great people get crushed by bad markets and mediocre people win in great ones.

I tend to take more of a market-first approach, um, than most early-stage people. I focus on the market and product market more than the founders. And obviously, founders are incredibly important. I started 2 companies myself, so I hope that founders are incredibly important. But I also think that what you're actually building and which market for who matters a lot. And I've seen great people crushed by terrible markets and I've seen reasonably mediocre people do really well.

Steal thisWhen evaluating a startup, weight the market and product-market fit above the founder team.

EP 635 · 1:54 · ELAD GIL
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Framework

Invest market-first, not founder-first

Elad Gil credits much of his angel track record to weighting market and product-market fit above founders, the opposite of most early-stage investors. He's watched great people get crushed by bad markets and mediocre people win in great ones.

I tend to take more of a market-first approach, um, than most early-stage people. I focus on the market and product market more than the founders. And obviously, founders are incredibly important. I started 2 companies myself, so I hope that founders are incredibly important. But I also think that what you're actually building and which market for who matters a lot. And I've seen great people crushed by terrible markets and I've seen reasonably mediocre people do really well.

Steal thisWhen evaluating a startup, weight the market and product-market fit above the founder team.

EP 635 · 1:54 · ELAD GIL
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Story

The SpaceX round he was too broke to join

Gil put over 50% of his own (modest) Google money into private companies and ran out fast. His biggest regret: getting pinged on a SpaceX round when it was a $500M company but lacking the cash for the minimum check size.

somebody pinged me on the SpaceX round when it was like a $500 million company, and I really was excited about it. I thought it was such a interesting game. And I just, I didn't have enough money for the minimum that they had as check sizes.
EP 635 · 3:27 · ELAD GIL
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Idea

Translate 1,000 public-domain books into audiobooks in every language

Gil and his team are using AI to take the thousand most important out-of-copyright books, translate them into dozens of languages, and generate audiobooks so anyone anywhere can download the great works of history.

we're trying to take the, the, the thousand most important books that are off of copyright and translate them into dozens of languages using AI and then create audiobooks off of any of, off of all of them so people can download the great works of history from anywhere in the world in any language.

Steal thisUse AI translation plus voice synthesis to turn public-domain classics into multilingual audiobooks.

EP 635 · 4:46 · ELAD GIL
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Framework

Most businesses hinge on one or two things, not five

Gil argues nearly every business has just one (maybe two) fundamental drivers; everything else is noise or check-the-box. Founders and investors go wrong by getting wrapped up in five things instead of finding the one.

Usually most businesses have one or two things that are the fundamental aspect of that business that matters and everything else is just noise or check the box or whatever. And I think that where people tend to sometimes either start the wrong things as founders or invest in the wrong things as investors is they get too wrapped up in what are the five things that matter for this business. And usually there's one, maybe two.

Steal thisIdentify the single fundamental driver of a business and treat everything else as noise.

EP 635 · 6:38 · ELAD GIL
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Tactic

Stripe's one insight: get every developer using it

Gil cites Stripe's early focus as a model of the single key insight: ignore mid-market and enterprise, just get every early-stage technology company onto the product.

early on with Stripe, their, their one insight was how do we just get every developer using this product? We're not going to worry about mid-market and enterprise. We're not going to worry about and other things. How do we get every early stage technology company that matters on us?
EP 635 · 7:59 · ELAD GIL
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Fact

Why Anduril expands the defense market: margins

Legacy defense primes use cost-plus contracts, earning ~5% on a $1M drone (50K). By selling its own better drones, Anduril captures ~50% hardware margins, roughly 10x the margin dollars, expanding the market cap of the whole defense category.

the traditional defense tech companies are what are known as cost plus, which means if you have a million dollar drone, they charge 5%. So they can't make more than 5% margins. They make 50K on a drone, you're Andrew L. You can sell 10 better drones for $1 million. You make 50% margin, which is traditional hardware margin. You make 10 times the margin dollars.
EP 635 · 10:32 · ELAD GIL
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Story

How the Google Maven walkout led Gil to Anduril

When Google shut down Project Maven, Gil saw big tech fleeing defense as a startup opportunity. He called a Google contact who clarified the anti-Maven people quit, then hunted down someone who wanted to build defense tech and invested in Anduril's first round.

I actually called one of the people at Google that I knew who was working on Google Cloud, which the Maven team was part of at the time.. And I said, hey, did all the people who wanted to do Maven quit in protest? And he's like, no, no, no. It was all the people who were against Maven who quit. The rest of the people are still here. So I was like, okay, where do I find somebody who wants to work on this?
EP 635 · 11:38 · ELAD GIL
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Take

Sometimes the thesis only exists in hindsight

Gil invested in Notion, Airtable and Retool within two years of each other before any low-code/no-code thesis existed; the trend was only visible afterward. His point: stay open rather than forcing a thesis.

I invested in Notion, Airtable, and Retool within, I don't know, 2 years of each other, whatever the timeframe was. But at the time, there was no low-code, no-code kind of thesis. It was just, these are really interesting founders working in interesting areas. And so in hindsight, there was a market, or at least there was a trend.
EP 635 · 14:03 · ELAD GIL
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Framework

Naval's mercenary, missionary, artist arc

Gil shares Naval's reframe of the old VC 'missionary or mercenary' question: early in your career you're partly a mercenary to find the opportunity, later you become a missionary working for the greater good, and once you've made it you become an artist doing it for love of the craft.

early in your career, you're at least partially a mercenary. Otherwise you're never going to find the opportunity and go in it. And then later in your life, you're a missionary. Right? You're not zero-sum. You're trying to do things for the greater good. And then, uh, once you've made it in your career, you should become an artist. You should be doing it for the love of the craft.
EP 635 · 19:20 · ELAD GIL
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Fact

Aging research is starved while NIH funds Alzheimer's

Gil notes the National Institute on Aging has a tiny budget relative to cancer (NCI), and most of it goes to Alzheimer's, leaving fundamental aging research sparse despite evidence that conserved pathways can be tweaked to extend healthy lifespan.

if you just look at, for example, the National Institutes for Aging, which is a very small budget relative to the NCI for cancer or other parts of the NIH, and most of that budget just goes to Alzheimer's. And so actual fundamental research into aging is quite sparse.
EP 635 · 25:30 · ELAD GIL
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Fact

Rapamycin extends mouse lifespan 10-30%, by sex

Gil explains that drugs can already extend lifespan across organisms: rapamycin makes mice live 10-30% longer depending on sex (females longer than males), and gene knockouts can extend lifespan too, proving drugs can mimic the effect.

Rapamycin would be an example where in mice, um, mice will live 10 to 30% longer based on actually their sex, right? So female mice, I think, will live longer than male mice on rapamycin.
EP 635 · 28:14 · ELAD GIL
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Take

Why Gil takes almost nothing for longevity

Despite being deep in biopharma, Gil avoids taking anything chronically unless the impact is huge, and nothing on the market clears that bar. His real longevity advice: exercise, sleep, eat well, and discuss rapamycin with a doctor.

I've tried to stay away from taking anything chronically unless I think it would have a huge impact. And so far, there isn't anything in the market that would really map to that. You know, a lot of it honestly is like, do you exercise? Do you sleep? Do you eat well?
EP 635 · 31:20 · ELAD GIL
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Fact

The Eiffel Tower was a steel-prowess flex

Gil notes the Eiffel Tower was built in the late 1800s for a Paris World Fair to show off French steelmaking, an ode to modern technology that was controversial and called ugly at the time.

I don't know if you know the origins of the Eiffel Tower, but it was built in the late 1800s for a World Fair in Paris to show off French steelmaking prowess. Right. It was an ode to technology and an ode to steelmaking because steel was like modern tech and it was very controversial at the time. People thought it was ugly and all this stuff, right?
EP 635 · 34:22 · ELAD GIL
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Tactic

Gil's guide to transformative travel: a month, one skill

Gil's formula for immersive travel: spend at least a month in one city and commit to learning something there (pastries in France, yoga in India), ideally inside a community so you bond with the people, not just the topic.

I think it's basically spend at least a month in one city. And adopt or decide to learn something there. And so, you know, maybe you want to go learn how to draw, or maybe you want to go to France and learn to make pastries, or maybe you want to, you know, in my case it was go to India and do this very intensive yoga experience, or maybe, you know, and especially if it's part of a community that you join, you get really immersed in interesting ways and not just the topic, but also the people around it and the local people.

Steal thisSpend a full month in one city learning a single skill inside a local community.

EP 635 · 44:31 · ELAD GIL
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