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Balaji Srinivasan

Entrepreneur and investor, former Coinbase CTO and a16z general partner, and author of The Network State.

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  • Idea6 · 27%
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  • Take2 · 9%
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  • Guest14 · 64%
  • Shaan7 · 32%
  • Sam1 · 5%
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Guest appearances

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#178#178 with Balaji - Balaji on How to Fix the Media, Cloud Communities & CryptoMay 05, 2021

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In the moments

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Idea

Praxis: build a startup city by curating the cool-kids network first

Shaan put $25K into Praxis (backed by Balaji), which first built a Soho-House-style network of cool founders and creatives via parties, then plans to negotiate sovereign land in the Mediterranean - their own law and regulation - and run it as a real-estate company renting to that community.

this guy's premise is basically like, if you're going to build a new city, you need to have a network effect of dope people who want to be around each other. And so he's been curating this community for a while. And then they're going to the Mediterranean and they're going to these countries like, hey, Croatia, can we get a piece of land that's ours?

Steal thisBootstrap a new ecosystem by curating the network of people first - the network effect is the real asset.

EP 195 · 50:59 · SHAAN
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Number

Balaji's clinical genomics company exited for $300 million

Sam notes that Balaji's first company, Counsyl (a clinical genomics testing company later folded into Myriad Women's Health), was acquired in a roughly $300 million exit.

$300M
Acquisition / exit value of Counsyl · USD
sorry, actually, that was like a $300 million exit or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow, like, like pretty wildly successful.
EP 178 · 5:33 · SAM
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Take

Truth, health, wealth: the priority order for building anything

Balaji's motto for 1729 is to pursue truth, health, and wealth in that exact order: determine what's true, protect your health because without it you have nothing, and treat wealth as important but third. Sacrificing health or honesty for money is a long-term loss even in pure dollar terms.

basically, you're pursuing truth, health, and wealth in that order. And I think that's actually the right priority order, right? So, learn truth, determine what is true, pursue health because without that, you have really nothing else. And then, wealth is important but it's third and it's important to have that third. You never want to do something that's untrue to make money or to sacrifice your long-term health for wealth.

Steal thisOrder your goals truth first, health second, wealth third; never trade the first two for the third.

EP 178 · 8:46 · BALAJI SRINIVASAN
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Idea

Crypto credentials that kill the college diploma

Balaji argues a diploma is a coarse signal that hides what you actually know. Instead, every problem you solve becomes a verifiable badge in your crypto wallet, so a job board can auto-qualify you from a granular, portable portfolio of proven skills rather than an unreliable CV.

Now, why that kind of thing is important is it totally destroys the concept of a college diploma. The reason being, college diploma is a very, very coarse-grained, you know, kind of illustration of somebody's skills. If somebody says, oh, I've got a Harvard degree or Stanford degree, right? What does that really mean?

Steal thisIssue granular, verifiable skill badges into a wallet so employers can auto-qualify candidates from proof, not pedigree.

EP 178 · 12:49 · BALAJI SRINIVASAN
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Number

Print media revenue collapsed from $65B to $17B after 2008

Balaji cites the 'Print Media Disruption' chart: after the 2008 financial crisis, print media advertising revenue fell from around $65 billion to roughly $17 billion while Google and Facebook went vertical.

$17000M
Print media revenue after the 2008 crisis (down from $65B) · USD
After the financial crisis, print media dropped the revenue from like something like $65 billion down to like $17 billion while Google and Facebook were just going vertical like this, right?
EP 178 · 25:21 · BALAJI SRINIVASAN
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Take

Own a media corporation or be owned by one

Balaji's 'meme on memes': in the new era, companies that don't build their own narrative and media muscle become the villain in someone else's story. Tech ignored media for a decade and paid for it in the techlash.

I've got a meme on memes. What's that? Can I give you my meme on memes? Own a media corporation or be owned by one.

Steal thisBuild your own media/narrative engine; if you don't own the story, a media corporation will write you as the bad guy.

EP 178 · 46:38 · BALAJI SRINIVASAN
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Prediction
Pending

2020s are startup cities, 2030s are network states

Balaji's one-liner timeline for the progression of internet-native institutions: 2000s were tech companies, 2010s crypto protocols, 2020s startup cities, 2030s network states. Company, protocol, city, state.

my one-liner on this is 2000s were the tech companies, 2010s crypto protocols. 2020s, startup cities. 2030s, network states. Okay, so company, protocol, city, state. I think that's where we're going. We're essentially at things just beginning.
EP 178 · 54:14 · BALAJI SRINIVASAN
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Story

Balaji bought into Bitcoin after it survived a 90% crash

What convinced Balaji that Bitcoin had staying power wasn't the white paper but the 2011 crash from $32 to $2 and its recovery to ~$10 in 2012. Surviving a 90%+ drawdown and coming back is, he says, extremely rare and signaled real durability.

But it was basically the crash from $32 down to $2 in 2011 and the subsequent recovery up to like $10 in 2012 that convinced me the thing had staying power because it's very rare that you have something endure a 90% plus drop and then come back, right?
EP 178 · 56:49 · BALAJI SRINIVASAN
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Framework

Every app needs one of the seven deadly sins

Balaji relays Michael Moritz's framework that every breakout consumer app maps to a deadly sin: Tinder is lust, Twitter is wrath, Google is sloth, DoorDash is gluttony. The lesson: deliver a visceral, instantly explainable benefit ('a newsletter that pays you').

you know, Moritz talks about this half-jokingly as, you know, every app needs one of the seven deadly sins, you know, like lust, greed, sloth, gluttony, wrath, pride, uh, I forget the other ones, right? Um, but it's things close, right? Tinder is lust, right? And Twitter is wrath.

Steal thisHook users with one visceral, instantly explainable benefit (a deadly sin), not a long-term abstract promise.

EP 178 · 1:04:32 · BALAJI SRINIVASAN
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Framework

Why a startup beats a grant: $10 per row vs $1,000 per row

Balaji explains why he left academia for startups: with a $10M grant where each row of data costs $1,000, you can only collect 10,000 rows before the money runs out. But if you can earn even $10 per row, you can collect a vastly larger sample and make a bigger difference.

if you raise $10 million in a grant— raise isn't the right term— you get a $10 million grant and each row of data costs $1,000 to collect, you can only do 10,000 rows before you run out of money, right? Whereas if you're making even $10 on a row, you can collect a much larger sample and make a much bigger difference for the world, right?

Steal thisPick the model where each unit of work earns money instead of spending it; revenue per row scales further than grant per row.

EP 178 · 1:06:26 · BALAJI SRINIVASAN
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Idea

Uber for global relocation: pick up stakes and move countries instantly

Balaji predicts permanent international migration and digital nomadism will be huge, calling it an underappreciated area with a thousand pieces of tooling to build. The next step beyond Uber-to-the-coffee-shop is 'Uber around the world' to relocate internationally as fast and cheaply as possible.

I think an underappreciated area is going to be relocation, permanent international migration. You know, this is why I did Teleport a while back. Digital nomadism is going to be huge. Uh, being like, there's a thousand pieces of the tool chain for allowing people to go more mobile. You know, Uber and Airbnb— Uber is go down, you know, to the coffee shop, but the next step is Uber around the world.

Steal thisBuild tooling for frictionless international relocation; treat moving countries like calling an Uber.

EP 178 · 1:19:56 · BALAJI SRINIVASAN
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Idea

Uber for global relocation: pick up stakes and move countries instantly

Balaji predicts permanent international migration and digital nomadism will be huge, calling it an underappreciated area with a thousand pieces of tooling to build. The next step beyond Uber-to-the-coffee-shop is 'Uber around the world' to relocate internationally as fast and cheaply as possible.

I think an underappreciated area is going to be relocation, permanent international migration. You know, this is why I did Teleport a while back. Digital nomadism is going to be huge. Uh, being like, there's a thousand pieces of the tool chain for allowing people to go more mobile. You know, Uber and Airbnb— Uber is go down, you know, to the coffee shop, but the next step is Uber around the world.

Steal thisBuild tooling for frictionless international relocation; treat moving countries like calling an Uber.

EP 178 · 1:19:56 · BALAJI SRINIVASAN
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Framework

The Idea Maze is time-varying: bad ideas become great ones

Balaji's Idea Maze concept includes that the maze shifts over time, so a bad idea today can be a great one later. Pandora was only an okay idea pre-iPhone and became a billion-dollar company once the iPhone enabled ubiquitous audio everywhere.

The second bit is that the maze is time-varying. So, what's a bad idea today could be a good idea in the future or vice versa. For example, Pandora, pre-iPhone, was only an okay idea, and post-iPhone, it finally became a billion-dollar company.

Steal thisTime your idea to a coming epochal shift; the same idea can flip from bad to great when the platform arrives.

EP 178 · 1:42:21 · BALAJI SRINIVASAN
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Idea

Miami is the Singapore of Latin America

Via Antonio Garcia Martinez, Balaji frames Miami not as a beach party town but as the neutral business capital of Latin America: a Mexican and a Paraguayan will close a deal in Miami because it has good banking, US rule of law, and a more stable currency. It's a hub Americans underestimate.

Miami is like the Singapore of Latin America, which is to say that if you've got a Mexican national and a guy from Paraguay and they want to do a deal, they'll do it in Miami because everybody knows it, they all respect it, it's like a decentralized demilitarized zone, it's got good banking, rule of law because based in the US
EP 178 · 1:54:41 · BALAJI SRINIVASAN
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Framework

You can't abolish the FDA, but you can exit it like we exited the Fed

Balaji argues you don't reform an institution from inside; Google didn't fix Microsoft by becoming Bill Gates, it built a parallel system. You can't abolish the FDA or the Fed, but you can exit the Fed with Bitcoin and build an ethical, fully opt-in parallel system.

Google didn't reform Microsoft by becoming, you know, Bill Gates. Google reformed it by building a parallel system.

Steal thisDon't try to reform a captured institution from inside; build a parallel, opt-in system and let people exit to it.

EP 178 · 2:08:29 · BALAJI SRINIVASAN
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Story

Balaji stopped hiring from Harvard and MIT; he hires from Twitter

Balaji says he no longer hires from Stanford, Harvard, or MIT but from Twitter, because it's international and you can tell from someone's writing that they can think, communicate, and what their values and character are. A degree gives far less signal than a public feed.

Another thing I've realized I don't hire actually from Stanford or Harvard or MIT or whatever anymore. You know where I hire from? Twitter. Me too. Okay. Because basically, uh, it's— first, it's international. Second is you can kind of tell that these folks can write.

Steal thisSource hires from their public writing/feed where skills, values, and character show, not from their diploma.

EP 178 · 2:25:31 · BALAJI SRINIVASAN
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Framework

Balaji's fix for cancellation: decouple your real and work identities

Shaan relays Balaji's thesis that since the mob won't calm down and you can now be canceled professionally, the answer is to detach your real identity from your work identity and build under a pseudonym like Financial Samurai or Mr. Money Mustache.

And so instead, the solution is to to decouple, to detach your real identity and your work identity and be more like Financial Samurai, be more like Mr. Money Mustache, be more like Growth Guy Sam and not Sam Parr, right? Is that the answer? And I actually think that it kind of is the answer.

Steal thisBuild your next project under a brand or pseudonym, not your real name, to decouple it from cancellation risk.

EP 154 · 24:23 · SHAAN
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Prediction
Pending

Balaji: in 20 years you won't know what most people look like online

Balaji Srinivasan's thesis, relayed by Jack Smith and Shaan, that real identity will be guarded like a Social Security number and split from separate work and social-media identities, with avatars replacing faces on calls.

So he basically thinks the way that we treat, like, our Social Security number That's how we're going to treat our real name and face. It's not going to be something you give out unless you have to. And you use that to like create accounts and those accounts have their own usernames. So when you go to work, you're not going to be Jack Smith with your face. You're going to be, maybe you're called like, you know, Growth Guy 33
EP 148 · 4:08 · SHAAN
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Framework

Exit over Voice: voting with your feet drives change

Shaan summarizes Balaji's 'Exit or Voice': rather than relying on democratic voice, the power to leave (vote with your feet) is a stronger force for change and competition between governments, as entrepreneurs and companies leave high-tax states for friendlier ones.

His point is, you know, this is the really dumbed-down simplification of it, but his point is is, hey, you know what's better than a voice? The ability to exit. Meaning if you can leave, if you can vote with your feet, that is a much more powerful factor for change and competition and driving like, you know, different governments to treat you well than you having a voice
EP 147 · 51:07 · SHAAN
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Framework

Personal Media Companies will swarm traditional media

Shaan relays Balaji's PMC concept: Joe Rogan, Tim Ferriss, and MrBeast are personal media companies that generate viral content, build a loyal audience, then layer on partnerships, businesses, and investment access that traditional media and outsiders can't reach.

Balaji, he has this phrase that he calls his personal media companies, PMCs. PMCs. And he's like, PMCs are gonna replace, or, you know, just sort of swarm traditional media companies. Because you can have the Joe Rogans and you can have the Tim Ferriss's and you can have the MrBeasts and you can have all these different people just be personal media companies where they generate content, content, uh, goes viral, gets them audience, audience, you know, becomes loyal.
EP 145 · 15:48 · SHAAN
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Fact

'Befriend and betray': how journalists frame a quote into a hit piece

Shaan recounts Balaji Srinivasan's warning about the journalist 'befriend and betray' move: a reporter flatters you as an expert to get a quote, then the editor slaps on a clickbait headline that mocks you, regardless of a fair article body.

this is a strategy called befriend and betray, where the journalist comes to you and says, hey, Balaji, you're an expert, I would love to get your take on this thing. And all they're trying to do is write the story.
EP 67 · 49:54 · SHAAN
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Idea

Pay-per-reply email: charge $10 to guarantee a busy person answers you

Shaan describes Balaji Srinivasan's Earn (sold to Coinbase): a paid-email model where a sender pays, say $10, and the recipient guarantees a reply, keeping $9 while the service takes $1. It didn't work, but Shaan thinks the aligned-incentive premise still makes sense.

Right, so this is different where this says I will get 5— I will get— if it's $10, I get $9, the service gets $1, and the person gets a guaranteed reply. And I think that's pretty cool for, you know, high-profile people or important people, you know, recruiters who want to reach people. It's pay-per-reply.

Steal thisLet busy people set a price that guarantees a reply, paying out most of the fee to the recipient to align incentives.

EP 44 · 23:01 · SHAAN
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