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Constellation Software

Leonard's vertical-software acquirer

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  • Framework3 · 60%
  • Billy2 · 40%
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  • Shaan3 · 60%
  • Guest1 · 20%
  • Sam1 · 20%
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  • Acquisitions / M&A3 · 30%
  • SaaS / Software3 · 30%
  • Hiring / Team2 · 20%
  • Investing1 · 10%
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Billy

Mark Leonard: the anonymous $2B SaaS roll-up king

Andrew names Constellation Software founder Mark Leonard his Billy of the Year: worth ~$1.9B from acquiring boring vertical-market software businesses with high switching costs since 1995, while remaining almost completely anonymous online.

He founded Constellation Software, which is like the OG SaaS acquirer. So over the last 5 years, I think every single person in the world has realized software businesses are good businesses. Everyone's trying to buy them, paying crazy prices. This guy's been doing it since 1995 from up here in Canada. He's been focusing on super boring verticals with low competition.
EP 141 · 3:24 · ANDREW WILKINSON
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Billy

Mark Leonard: the mysterious $31B software roll-up king

Billy of the Week is Mark Leonard of Constellation Software, a company worth $31 billion that buys software companies and holds them forever for the cash flows rather than flipping them like private equity. Shaan calls him a 'Satoshi Nakamoto of boring businesses.'

His company's worth $31 billion. What they do is they buy software companies and they roll them up and they try to be a perpetual owner. So they're not private equity where they're doing the leveraged buyout and trying to flip, cut it, skin it, and flip it or whatever. They try to just own the thing for a long period of time and have the cash flows. And so what I like about this guy, what I thought was cool was this guy's like a Satya Toshi Nakamoto of boring businesses. So nobody knows shit about this guy.
EP 74 · 28:04 · SHAAN
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Framework

Consolidate vertical market software that never churns

Shaan explains Constellation's thesis: instead of horizontal tools like Slack, buy the best vertical software for niches (golf clubs, healthcare, public transit, law) where every operator pays monthly, reliably, and never churns.

But what about all these vertical things like better software or specifically tailored software for, uh, you know, what if you're a golf club and you need to manage bookings, tee times, memberships, and whatever else? Every golf club, you will pretty much use whatever the best software is, and they'll pay for it every, every month reliably, and they'll never churn.

Steal thisTarget sticky vertical software niches where the best product wins the whole category and churn is near zero.

EP 74 · 30:46 · SHAAN
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Framework

Pay execs in escrowed open-market shares, not options

Shaan describes Constellation's compensation model: execs get no share options; instead 75% of their after-tax bonus must buy shares on the open market, held in escrow for four years, so they can't profit from short-term share-price pumping.

they take 75% of their after-tax bonus, and they can buy shares on the open market, and then those shares are held in escrow for 4 years. So if the stock is overvalued because they are sort of temporarily pumping enthusiasm, energy, or doing buybacks or whatever, they're buying overvalued stock.

Steal thisMake leaders buy real shares with after-tax bonus money and lock them up for years instead of granting free options.

EP 74 · 33:03 · SHAAN
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Framework

Counter-incentives: pair every quota with a quality balance

Sam shares a lesson Tim Ferriss gave him: whenever you incentivize a behavior, attach an opposite incentive to keep it balanced. A sales quota alone drives volume, so pair it with revenue collection or retention so reps chase quality customers too.

if you're going to tell your sales team you have a quota of this number and it's huge, you also have to have an incentive. It's kind of like revenue collection, which means you only go after quality people who can pay bills, or, um, retention, which is you only get paid if you sell people and you are— you treat them well and they come back.

Steal thisNever set a quota without a paired counter-incentive (collections or retention) so reps optimize for quality, not just volume.

EP 74 · 34:17 · SAM
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